And 10 seconds later, my first bug. The Jabber presence stuff in fact isn't working still. I'm confused. It's all about adding the users to my roster, but I'm obviously not doing this correctly. Someone who has a clue about this stuff send me an email and walk me through it. I've got DJs book and it's not clear enough. If it seems clear enough to you, pretend I'm an idiot (okay, you don't have to pretend) and explain it to me nice and slow.